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Chris Broussard And The Right To Be An Idiot


In the wake of Jason Collins’ Sports Illustrated article, we here at SportsGrid — like many outlets and individuals around the world — were witness to the reaction of Chris Broussard on First Take. As we have detailed, Broussard stated: “Personally, I don’t believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestlye, or like, premarital sex between heterosexuals… [the Bible] says that that’s a sin… I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ.” Many disagreed with that sentiment. Others, like golfer Bubba Watson, applauded Broussard for expressing his opinion.

In our posts on these matters, we were not unbiased. We are a sports blog, and our stories are driven as much by the people who write them as the events themselves. Because of that, individual writers say things that may not always reflect the view of the blog as a whole. Believe it or not, we hold our collective self to some standards.

A similar situation played out on First Take, when Broussard was asked what he thought of Collins’ claim to be both a Christian and a gay man. Broussard spoke his mind. It did not necessarily reflect the views of the Disney-ABC Television Group, but he was asked to comment and he did so. In the United States of America, we have the right to speak our minds.

I’d like to take that sentiment one step further. In the United States of America, you have the right to be an idiot. You have the right to say whatever you feel, even if what you feel is, by any true standards of decency and rationality, wrong. No matter how stupid your feelings are, you have right to them.

We here at SportsGrid would like to applaud Chris Broussard for exercising his right to be an idiot. He did so despite knowing the consequences of his actions — and indeed, there are consequences to voicing your opinion on television. Particularly when that opinion disparages, insults and demeans a group of people that is no different from any other niche
of people in our country.

For thousands of years, religious doctrines around the world have been used as the basis for discriminating against and subjugating people. Religion was the original source of the caste system in India, for example. In America, there is a history of using the Bible to justify slavery, and subsequently segregation. As the minister Henry G. Brinton wrote: “In the 1860s, Southern preachers defending slavery also took the Bible literally. They asked who could question the Word of God when it said, ‘slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling’ (Ephesians 6:5), or ‘tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect’ (Titus 2:9).”

In the last few decades, we as a society have come to realize that any justification for subjugating an entire ethnic group or class of people is unacceptable. The same can be said for the long-time discrimination of women. Though we hold documents such as the Constitution and the Bible in high regard, we understand that our interpretations of their
words are subject to change. They are, after all, man-made — and man is fallible.

The argument that homosexuals are inferior to heterosexuals is akin to the argument that blacks are inferior to whites by virtue of birth. Just as I was born into white skin, Chris Broussard was born into black skin; just as I was born into a heterosexual body, Jason Collins was born into a homosexual body. To say that one of these distinctions is better
than another, and to cite a holy book as evidence, is to repeat the mistakes and prejudices of the past.

Broussard has tried to defend this position before, using his friendship with fellow ESPN columnist and openly gay man LZ Granderson as evidence of his open-mindedness: “I consider LZ a friend. I’ve gone out to lunch with him, talked music, sports, politics and lots of other things with him. I greet him with a handshake and a hug, just like I greet lots of other guys.” He goes on to say that he disagrees with Granderson’s “beliefs” and “lifestyle.” He equates his interpretation of the Bible with Granderson’s innate dispositions. It’s an unfair comparison.

As we look back in the history of this country and the world over, we see that many people have used similar arguments and justifications to refuse to accept other groups of people that make them, for whatever reason, uncomfortable. This is a terrible, hurtful, shameful viewpoint, one that will not be vindicated in the history books.

Consider the story of Henry Ford of the Ford Motor Company and Rabbi Leo M. Franklin. The two were neighbors in 1910s Detroit, and Ford used to give Franklin a new Model T every year for his pastoral rounds. In 1920, however, Ford began publishing a series of articles on “The International Jew,” detailing what he believed to be the Jewish Menace in his newspaper, The Dearborn Independent. When Franklin returned his Model T to Ford in protest, Ford was surprised that a “good” Jew like Franklin opposed what he had written about so-called “bad” Jews. He could somehow disassociate his own intolerant, ill-informed prejudices from his real-life experiences — which, in hindsight, is clearly the highest form of hypocrisy.

Henry Ford, however, was exercising his right to be an idiot. The KKK exists because its members exercise their right to be idiots. The same goes for the Westboro Baptist Church. In America, these people and groups have the right to exist and to express their opinion — no matter how hateful and unfortunate their views may be.

Based on his own writings and comments, Chris Broussard does not accept that people are homosexual. He may “tolerate” them, but he does not accept them. The fact that Broussard is a public figure means that he must be called to task. He has a responsibility not disparage minority groups — groups of people that have fought, and continue fight, the verbal and physical attacks that an uncomfortable majority has thrown at them. His faith is no excuse in this regard.

As we have noted, blame must also be assigned to ESPN, which made a calculated decision to solicit Broussard’s opinion on-air. As a television-ratings move, it was genius; in regards to being an outlet of responsible journalism, it was not. Then again, they have the right to be idiots too.

Contrary to some of the comments left on our site of late, we cannot, and will not, squash or dismiss Chris Broussard’s right to be an idiot — to free speech, as it were. But we will also not stand by and watch as he uses religion to demean the rights, feelings and capabilities of a group that is different from his own. He can say what he likes, but we don’t have to like it. Similarly, we can say what we like, and you don’t have to like it. That’s the beauty of our system.

Except, in our case, we don’t discriminate based on innate personhood (we discriminate based on how badly you throw out the first pitch, instead).

I would like to cite the words — as many do in times like these — of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (who, it should be noted, was not exactly a champion of gay rights himself). Dr. King gave a commencement speech at Oberlin College in 1965 that included this passage:

All I’m saying is simply this: that all mankind is tied together; all life is interrelated, and we are all caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. For some strange reason I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be — this is the interrelated structure of reality.

That, my readers, is SportsGrid’s view on this matter. An injury to one is an injury to all. Here’s to making a better, more inclusive and less discriminating world for all of us to live in.

Thank you for reading.

Eric Goldschein
Managing Editor


  • https://twitter.com/StefWilliams25 Stefanie

    My question is, would you guys feel the same if he was a white man saying he didn’t think black men could compete in a certain sport? Or that certain sports should only be white? When you have someone who works in a professional atmosphere where skewed opinions based on prejudices can actually effect his work, you can get fucked. His opinions are derogatory toward gay people. You now have a situation where you wonder if this guy is being critical of a player because they are gay and he personally disapproves, or because the guy deserves criticism for being a shitty player. I am all for freedom of speech and freedom to be an idiot, but I don’t think freedom of speech means freedom from consequences of that speech.

  • Chuck

    I agree. This website was better when it was just posting the irreverent. The author doesn’t agree with one man’s opinion, so he goes on the offensive. Who’s the idiot? This story is a couple of stories ahead of one headline that calls a white Nuggets fan “pasty”, and then shows Collins’ ex-girlfriend in all her hotness. You guys need to figure out who you are at this point.

  • Bon

    Talk about expressing your right to be idiots sports grind…. Your hypocrisy is thick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gail.robinson.566 Gail Robinson

    You are sports reporter. Stick to that. Your personal view aren’t required.

  • JHop

    Why do the serious and fun have to be separate? The status of homosexuality within our society is one of the major issues confronting our generation. So regardless of what side you’re on, it needs to be discussed and pondered thoughtfully and contritely.

    I can understand if you were to argue ‘I read SportsGrid to lighten my day, not for serious argumentation’. Well fine then, I see that point. However, the title shows very well what the direction of the article is going to be, so don’t click on it. Reserve yourself for clicking only the Paulina Gretzky-based headlines (of which there should be more by the way); no one forced you to read this op-ed.

  • Leslie

    there is a time to be funny (most of the time) and then there are times to be serious and speak your mind. this is one of those times. good job sportsgrid!

  • Anonymous

    So calling the guy a idiot because he thinks different then you makes you any better? I completely disagree with Broussard but I’m not going the name calling route because I’m not a kid.

  • Jonah

    Well said. Though I wish you’d been a little harder on Broussard, I have to say I agree.

  • JHop

    Couldn’t the same be said about Chris Broussard?

  • sportssuck

    Sports Suck!

  • Anonymous

    Interesting that in calling Broussard an idiot, the author of this ridiculous piece reveals himself to be an idiot as well as ignorant of religion in general. If you are going to use the narrative of Christianity being used to justify slavery, you also have to acknowledge that slavery was first abolished in Christian lands and various religious types lead to charge for abolition. The Hebrew word “slave” in the Bible is derived from the words “to work.” Often people sold themselves into slavery in Biblical days to pay off debts or advance their careers. How exactly is Broussard not “accept” gay people? Nothing from what he said could cause you to conclude that. Nothing he said was disparaging toward gays as well. It was simply a personal opinion based on his religion. Your idiotic writing confirms that what Broussard said actually took more courage in the media than what Collins has done. The PC thought police that you abide by are fine with someone who is gay. But will not tolerate someone who objects to a lifestyle as a result of their religious convictions. So it is actually you who is the intolerant idiot, not Broussard.

  • Jonah

    Well, you certainly write like a kid. Your grammar is atrocious, and so is your logic. If Broussard doesn’t want to be called an idiot, he shouldn’t spew derogatory nonsense about things he clearly doesn’t understand.

    He got off lightly in this article… He’s much, much worse than just an idiot.

  • Brent

    Lets get this straight, someone point to me where Broussard was being intolerant, bigoted, ignorant. Because I saw none of that. Broussard expressed what his beliefs say, and his beliefs say that homosexuality is a sin. Broussard didn’t say “homosexuals should be fired and trampled on and have their rights removed and be kicked to the curb”. Broussard believes that homosexuality goes against God, and that’s fine! But people stomp on him like he’s an “idiot”. The bible did not justify slavery of blacks or degradation of women, people manipulated verses to try and make it look that way. But the bible does straight out say that quote “Homosexuality is an abomination”. There’s no wording around it to try and “justify” anything. Broussard has gay friends, he hangs out with them, has dinner with them, does normal things with them without calling them out, and you know what, they don’t attack him either. If you’re going to attack Broussard, get an understanding of what Christianity is and what it stands for before you start hurling rocks and calling him intolerant. Don’t be the pot who called the kettle black.

  • Brian Sullivan

    The author notes the Bible has been historically used to justify slavery (among other morally reprehensible ideas) yet he also notes interpretations of the Bible are susceptible to change. It is possible that particular interpretations of the Bible to justify morally reprehensible ideas were never correct but the author does not seem to indicate that is a possibility. Instead, he assumes homosexuality isn’t immoral without any substantial argument and dismisses Broussard as an idiot for disagreeing with his personal viewpoint. The debate surrounding the moral nature of homosexuality is of too much significance to treat so flippantly. Don’t build a straw man and beat it up. Rather, understand the opposing arguments and represent them fairly even if your conclusions are divergent.

  • JRN5150

    Never reading from this site again. The author is hardly accepting of Christianity and its views. He may “tolerate it” but he obviously doesn’t accept it. I guess he is using his right to be an idiot. The bible was not man made. It is an inspired work of God. It was recorded by men, but the commandments of the Lord are not fallible. So, when the bible tells me that acts including fornication, adultery, pre-marital sex, and homosexual relationships and the physicality entailed, I tend to agree with Mr. Broussard.

    The ones who say that Christians are narrow minded because of their beliefs are in fact the narrow minded. If somebody does not agree with you, then they are a bigot, racist, narrow minded idiot, etc. Grow up please, and while you are at it please ask your liberal political party to stop screwing up our country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8351121 Justin Hensley

    He’s an idiot now because he disagrees with homosexuality? Something that should be left in the bedroom in the first place. but no, gays just cant move on with their lives unless their depraved lifestyle is shoved in everyones face until everyone just accepts the depravity as reality.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8351121 Justin Hensley

    Liberal group think is ruining freedom of speech. Their intolerance to any ideas from their own is out of control. The irony in it is that liberalism has become a religion. They cast you out if you think differently and call a bigot and intolerant even though they are the ones who refuse to acknowledge any other point of view as valid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8351121 Justin Hensley

    You attack someone not on merit but ultimately because he isnt a part of your foolish group think. Think for yourself you stupid dipsh*t. Group think is turning you against people who think even slightly differently.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8351121 Justin Hensley

    Speaking their mind only matters when they agree with you you stupid f*cking hypocrite.

  • Jay

    There are certain topics that should just be avoided at times. Collins is a professional basketball player. His off-court preferences are his business. Yes many may not agree with his choices but there has to be tolerance. We’re SUPPOSED to be past the days when players of different races weren’t allowed to play together, different races weren’t allowed to marry each other, etc. etc. I agree that a dialog should occur about such things as gay rights, gun control, immigration, etc. But let’s not bring those things into the mix of sports. Broussard has a right to his views but I don’t think he or anybody else has a right to impose his religious beliefs on the entire audience. Every ESPN viewer is not Christian so he shouldn’t expect everyone to agree with him or want to hear his personal views on issues unrelated to sports. There are other gay athletes out there but unfortunately society makes them feel as if they have to keep that hidden. Comments like Broussards just reinforce that. It reminds me a lot of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’. It’s wrong that a portion of athletes have to hide who they really are just because it makes others uneasy. It’ll be interesting to see if any others ‘come out’. Point is it shouldn’t matter. I’m sure many athletes in ALL sports have gay teammates & have no clue.

  • Brille

    Did you actually read all of what was said? He didn’t say anything about Gay people not being allowed to play sports or compete etc… said nothing of the sort he expressed his views on homosexuality , he’s been doing this job for a long time and has probably come across more diverse players than we know and that hasn’t hindered him so far. He was asked his opinion and gave it.

  • Brille

    He was asked

  • Jay

    I’m starting to think Broussard & Stephen A. Smith are related. I do think there is a resemblance & they both have made idiotic, insensitive comments recently. I wish there had been harsher consequences but it seems to me like ESPN is afraid of doing the right thing for fear of repercussions. It’s THEIR station, they have a right to discipline their employees for comments/actions that violate the conduct they expect from their employees.

  • Jonah

    Nice job using group think to defend someone spewing their religious beliefs all over America. Do you really not see the irony in what you just wrote?

  • JHop

    You can’t criticize SportsGrid or defend Broussard using that reasoning because they’re in two different formats. No one prompts SportsGrid with questions or articles, so you’re comparing apples to oranges in this scenario.

  • Eric Goldschein

    Would someone like to explain what it means to “disagree” with homosexuality? Can you “disagree” with any other part of someone’s innate being? I would love an explanation that goes beyond the usual citations.

  • Jonah

    First of all, Broussard’s point of view is not valid. Sorry, Justin. It’s not. Maybe one day you’ll crawl out from the cloud of ignorance and hate you’ve been raised under, and join the rest of the world in trying to move forward and improve the lives of others.

    Second, re: liberals being intolerant of other ideas… I’ll just quote you from earlier on this site: “…gays just cant move on with their lives unless their depraved lifestyle is shoved in everyones face…”.

    Nice job, asshole.

  • https://twitter.com/StefWilliams25 Stefanie

    Yes, believe it or not not only can I read but I can also see and I watched it. My point is that opinion is disparaging toward gays. If someone asked him if he thinks black people should use the same locker rooms as whites and he said no, that would be an issue. if someone asked him if he thought women should be subsetviant toward men and mot be sports analysts becausr thats what the boble said and he agreed there would be outrage. I believe in freedom of speech but I don’t believe freedom of speech entails freedom from consequences. There are consequences to publicly disarraging gay people, whether your religion sanctifies it or not. There are consequences to disparaging anyone. Say whatever you like but don’t be surprised when people come at you for comparing being gay to having an affair.

  • Eric Goldschein

    And by “disagree,” I do not mean “choose not to engage in yourself.”

  • http://www.nathanmagnuson.com/ Nathan Magnuson

    So was Broussard an idiot because of what he believes or for saying what he believes?

  • Geoff Kl

    a few years back, a local talk show host in san francisco lost his job due to a rant in which he used the phrase, “brain dead caribeans swinging at slop, nightly”

    no one was defending his right to be an idiot. he was flat out called a racist by many in the field…even though he wasnt then or now…he just chose his words poorly

    do i believe that broussard should lose his job over this? nope

    i think brousard should lose his job, because in all the years of being an analyst and a christian, he has never once spoke out against the behavior of about 90 percent of the nba, who have children from multiple women, who drive drunk and who act like thugs

    he should lose his job because he stinks as a human and an analyst

    and for a very long while, the bible was misused as justification for making marriage and sex between black and white illegal

  • Geoff Kl

    got a vid of chris calling out straight nba players for their many acts of infidelity?

    didnt think so

  • Anonymous

    Um, no. I don’t personally have a video like that. He does say that it is a sin according to what he believes. Not sure why it would be relevant to have a video.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting that in accusing someone else of ignorance, you reveal your own ignorance and intolerance of those who think differently than you.

  • Anonymous

    Broussard is not imposing his religious beliefs on anyone. He’s just stating what they are.

  • Anonymous

    But others have used the Bible to make the case for racial tolerance. The Bible is clear on this when it talks about how Moses married outside of his race.

  • Anonymous

    You can disagree with someone’s behavior and actions. It is possible to do that without actually being a bigot or hate monger. Perhaps you are surprised by this.

  • Jonah

    Damn straight I’m intolerant of people like Broussard and Justin. Open a newspaper sometime and check out the horrible actions (and crimes) that beliefs like theirs inspire.

  • Brille

    Whatever his beliefs are… Which once again he was asked, he did not say he thought a gay person should not play sports, you keep comparing it to not being allowed to do this or that, he didn’t say anything about Jason Collins not being allowed to play in the NBA, when he was asked a question which related to his Christian views, he gave it. If anything blame ESPN for taking it there but he simply gave a view and said nothing about gay inclusion in sport or lack there of… Inclusion in Chritianity maybe which I don’t necessarily believe as I don’t feel that anyone can decide on who else can be a follower of God, but inclusion in sport he said nothing about.

  • Anonymous

    So someone expressing his personal belief is now responsible for crimes that other people commit? Good to know.

  • Anonymous

    Ok. But you can still hold a belief that a certain behavior is wrong. It is disagreement with the behavior being an appropriate lifestyle in accordance with what you believe. It ultimately harms no one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattrud Matt Rudnitsky

    There is not a single trait someone can be born with that makes any sense to “disagree with.” You can’t “disagree with” anyone being: smart, dumb, tall, short, ginger, web-footed, gay, straight, mentally ill, etc. Nothing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattrud Matt Rudnitsky

    Look up depravity, please. There is zero chance you can convince any intelligent person that homosexuality is “depravity.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattrud Matt Rudnitsky

    JHop, you are a smart human being.

  • JRN5150

    Alcoholism?? If we cant disagree with Alcoholism then why are there so many laws restricting how much alcohol somebody can drink or age restrictions on who can purchase it?

  • JRN5150

    And why are there a bunch of stupid liberals trying to micromanage the food that americans eat to defeat obesity? Do you support Michelle Obama and Michael Bloomberg? They disagree with obesity…

  • Anonymous

    But you can disagree with someone making a dumb decision. Not that I characterize being gay as one of these. You are also assuming that a gay lifestyle is a trait similar to the other physical traits you described. You are free to think this. But apparently Chris Boussard disagrees and we should respect his opinion.

  • JRN5150

    One thing people dont understand is that its not necessary to accept a person’s choices to love that person. I find it morally wrong to have pre-marital sex, drink alcohol, use drugs, smoke cigarettes, participate in homosexual actions, etc., but by no means does that mean I cant love people that do said things. Most of my friends have done most if not all of those, yet they are still my friends. Am I a bigot? Absolutely not. I would welcome Jason Collins into my home to have dinner, but I am not going to support gay marriage. I believe it is wrong, and that is that.

  • The Real

    I actually stopped reading a little after you said thank you Chris Broussard for being an idiot because I can imagine you were going to try your hardest to debate and convince the readers on how his “opinion” is untrue and wrong. I say cheers Chris. What you did was brave and it’s crazy how this world turned for the worst where human beings now are condemned for stating there opinion, with respect mind you, on issues like gay america. And the religious topic affiliated with it.

  • john Doe

    Jonah just pwned you Justin, but I imagine you will just ignore this glaringly obviously refutation of your “logic”, just as your ignore any scientific data that may not comport with your “group think.”

    **I’m Justin from Texas. Teachers stopped teaching critical thinking in Texas schools years ago and I’m the product of this near-sighted decision, but don’t feel bad for me… I’m Jesus smart!**

  • john Doe

    I do not respect his opinion, but I will tolerate it. He doesn’t have to respect that fact that I feel he is a Christian homophobic bully, but that’s how I feel.

  • Jay

    I still say religion is one of the topics that shouldn’t be discussed in certain situations & I think this is one of them. If I’m watching ESPN I’m watching for sports, not a discussion on religious beliefs.

  • Jay

    Alcoholism is not an innate trait that defines who we are. I’m not gay so I can’t pretend to understand an attraction to the same sex. But virtually every gay person I’ve ever heard speak about their sexuality has said it wasn’t a choice, it’s just who they are. That’s totally different than a person choosing to take that first drink & evolve into becoming an alcoholic. Being gay is not caused by any drug or substance….alcoholism is.

  • Jay

    I respect & accept your views & how you shared them much more so than Broussard. I’m not an atheist nor am I a devout follower of any particular religion. I just don’t think it’s right for him or anybody to use religion in this situation. Collins came out as a gay man. Sure you can disagree with his lifestyle but you can do it in a respectful manner. Like I’ve said in previous comments, the man is a professional athlete, other than acknowledging he is the first person to openly come out as gay during their playing career, I don’t feel there needs to be any further discussion. What he or any other athlete does outside of their play is not really my business. Do I form opinions based on things that they do outside of their sport? Sure but I can accept that a person may be a great athlete but a complete ass or low life for what they do outside of their game.

  • Phil

    Wow. That entire self-righteous ‘letter from the editor’ was filled with more hate than Chris Broussard ever expressed. Congratulations. You choose not to subscribe to religion. That’s your choice. That doesn’t mean the people that do are ‘idiots.’ Many religious beliefs date back thousands of years; they have stood the test of time. Christianity in particular has never, ever advocated discrimination, but it does include laws. Again, sorry that you can’t handle that. And pretending that because you’re speaking from an ‘editor’ position somehow means you or your site’s view is more valid is just sad.

  • Phil

    Classy. Terrific discourse. No doubt helps the discussion of this matter. Just shows once again; when liberal minds don’t agree with what someone says, rather than reason it out they resort to childish name-calling and flaming.

  • Phil

    Great call. I had never been on this site before until I saw this article. I will never visit it again. The editor of this site clearly is the intolerant one. It’s sad that such people throw their darts accusing people of the sin that they are so guilty of. Chris Broussard was completely reasonable with everything he said; some can disagree with his opinion, but his request that people respect his view like he respects theirs was 100% fair. In fact, it should be common sense; unfortunately, people like the editor can’t raise themselves to that level.

  • Phil

    Actually, intelligent people for thousands of years have acknowledged it as exactly that. Enlighten us on how all of the sudden our society has decided it is so much smarter than the billions of people before us that realized something that we’ve suddenly decided is ok. And don’t start the ‘born that way’ crap, because if Jason Collins proved anything, it’s that the born that way argument was irrelevant. No one who is ‘born gay’ spends 8 years with a woman and gets engaged to her.

  • Phil

    If Jason Collins was ‘innately’ gay, then why did he spend 8 years in love with a woman and choose to become engaged to her? Somehow we’re supposed to believe that when he was engaged that he was ‘acting’, but then when he started dating men it was because he was ‘born that way.’ He chose to date a woman-nobody held a gun to his head and told him he had to-and now he’s choosing to date men.

  • john Doe

    I’m not a liberal dumbass.

  • Phil

    Exactly. What people like this editor don’t understand is that Chris Broussard was actually the courageous one in this situation. He said something that he knows the liberal media mob is going to seize on, because it dares to address that tooic (religion) that they are deathly afraid of. Great for him, and he did it in a very classy way.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not going to comment on your normative judgement of the strength of Mr. Broussard’s argument. However, I think you should face scrutiny for perpetuating the fallacy that sexual orientation somehow “innate.” The sum of current, peer reviewed studies find evolutionary pressure against that assumption, as well as their being some overriding genetic cause. At best, the evidence suggests that orientation is the byproduct of environmental factors, with genetic attributes also playing a role.

    Therefore, the crux of your argument fails. You would be better off routing your cognitive dissonance in a right-to-choice argument, rather than an “innateness” argument.

    I also found your prose difficult to read, and your ad hominem attacks kind of silly and juvenile.

  • john Doe

    Anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a liberal?

  • john Doe

    Anarcho-syndiclist. Learn how to use a semicolon dipshit.
    Semicolons separate things. Most commonly, they separate two main clauses that are closely related to each other but could stand on their own as sentences if you wanted them to
    Here’s an example:
    I have a big test tomorrow; I can’t go out tonight.
    The second instance in which it’s OK to use a semicolon with a coordinating conjunction also occurs when you have an excess of commas: it’s when you need to separate list elements that contain commas.
    Here’s an example:
    This week’s winners are Joe from Reno, Nevada; Diane from Phoenix, Arizona; and Matt from Irvine, California.
    Finally, you use a semicolon when you use a conjunctive adverb or transitional phrase to join two main clauses.
    Conjunctive adverbs are words such as “however,” “therefore,” and “indeed,” and they “usually show cause and effect, sequence, contrast, comparison, or other relationships” (1). For example, “I have a big test tomorrow; therefore, I can’t go out tonight.” (The comma after the conjunctive adverb is optional.)
    A transitional phrase is something like “for example” or “in other words.” A sentence with a transitional phrase could read as follows:
    I have a big test tomorrow; as a result, I can’t go out tonight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Derek-Yisrael/100003269252605 Derek Yisrael

    Stop with the gay / black people comparisons. No one forcefully brought gay people to America. No one chained up, raped, and murdered gay people in America en masse. No one told gays they could not attend the same schools as straights or that they could not live in the same neighborhoods. No one makes gays sit in the top of the movie theater. No one keeps gays from entering restaurants or from sitting there. No police officer stops gays on the streets and harasses them because of their sexuality or turned fire hoses on them in America because of their sexuality. If you are going to make the comparison, it better be a valid one. And it very disrespectful to the legacy of African Americans in this country to make the comparison. But you will never hear the comparison of gays to Jews. You’ll never hear that at all.

    You see, Broussard lightly touched on what the issue is with society en masse. Society as a whole is in rebellion against God. A God that people hate in word and action. It is not just homosexuality that is rebellion, but society as a whole and even the so-called religious. You wanna talk morality without absolute true and a moral code, then you’re making up your own morals from person to person. Making yourself into your own god whether you accept the terminology or not.

    One things for sure, all this secularism, naturalism, humanism, post modernism is not making this country, society, or the world better. It is becoming more danger, more violent, and more sickening.

  • JRN5150

    Thank you, but I feel like Broussard was respectful. They asked his opinion to whether or not he feels like Jason Collins is a good Christian. The interviewer brought religion into the discussion with his question. Mr. Broussard answered with his reasoning of why he though Jason Collins was not a good Christian, which is contained in teachings from the Bible. So, Chris Broussard only answered the question. Can you please tell me how that is disrespectful? He didnt attack Collins as a person, he only said that the choices of Homosexuality, Fornication, Adultery, and Pre-Marital Sex are against the teachings of the Bible. What he said was completely respectful and more importantly, true. ESPN released a response to Broussard and they even called it a “respectful discussion of personal beliefs.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Derek-Yisrael/100003269252605 Derek Yisrael

    My question is not on Collins sexuality, but in the fact that he had a fiancee that he was with and she was not made aware of his sexual orientation. This has definently put her at risk, but no one is talking about this aspect and the disrespect involved. But we celebrate him for being “honest”? Honest with who? Did he not owe it to the woman he was engaged to, whom I’m sure he was sexually intimate with, that he was gay? But that is honesty and integrity? It is amazing in society today what we celebrate as good and not mention the wrongs that are blatantly there. i think the “Down Low” issue is one worthy of discussing moreso than his “coming out” because that is a major issue with men who are not honest and are in relationships with straight women who do not know the truth of their partners, which is VERY irresponsible in regards to sexual safety, STDs, HIV, and AIDS

  • http://twitter.com/MarceloCorve Marcelo Corvezola

    hey stupid f*cker, hi! I hope you are aware you made an argument calling Dr.King a stupid f*cking hypocritell lol yeah!!!! u has smartz

  • http://twitter.com/MarceloCorve Marcelo Corvezola

    For all those calling those intolerant of Broussard hypocrites, just be aware that you are in turn calling Dr.King a hypocrite.
    so please stop with the pseudo critical thinker act…the amount of fail in that argument is mind numbing

  • Luke

    The question was about jason collins claiming to be christian and a homosexual. Broussard answered the question clearly on what the bible says. Broussard has chosen to base his opinions on what the bible says and the bible really clearly says that you can’t live a homosexual lifestyle and also be a christian. Nothing to do with being derogatory towards homosexuals or heterosexuals, but correcting a misunderstanding many have that you can live a unrepentant sinful lifestyle and still call yourself a bible believing christian.

  • wop genius

    The problem here is that people are mixing two things that shouldn’t be mixed, the law and religion. Every human is just that, a human. There shouldn’t be laws that dictate how humans who think or feel differently from others live there lives. The Government should not discriminate against any person based on race, gender, sexual preference, or beliefs. Gay people should have the same rights by law to marry the person that they love as straight people do.

    Now, if a religion chooses not to approve of or perform such marriages, that is their right as a private organization. If you think it is wrong because your religion tells you so, that is your right. People who claim that the Government shouldn’t allow them to marry based on their religious beliefs is not what America is based on.

    There is a separation that should be applied. You don’t have to agree with everything that people do, but they should have the same rights as you to do it.

  • Anoop

    Wow… so apparently it’s ok to speak your opinion if that opinion is not what a conservative christian believes. Look I have no problem with what Jason Collins did, he knew it would cause a stir, but he voiced his belief and his lifestyle choice or stance. In the SAME EXACT WAY Broussard stated he has no problem with Collins or anybody who chooses to live an open homesexual lifestyle or a sexual lifestyle regardless of orientation outside of marriage (later also categorizing adultery in that same category) because THATS WHAT HE BELIEVES! He’s not trying to exclude people from a right that is given by state or government he is expressing what his faith believes. Based on your article we are idiots if we don’t change our faith claim to fit what the majority deems “acceptable”. From an objective stance, analyzing both sides, you are being the the very thing you claim to dislike. You’re criticizing a man for believing something different from you, instead of just stating your beliefs on the topic and how you disagree with Broussard. Jason Collins believes something different from me, should I criticize him? No of course not, but I will continue believing what I believe is my faith. Broussard was not just stating his opinion when it comes to Christian living, he is quoting a manuscript for his faith where it claims homosexuality sexual activity outside of marriage, fornication, adultery, etc. In fact the bible categorizes these things as similar to extreme greed, extreme anger, not forgiving others, etc. Thats not something that can be taken out of context it’s just the beliefs that Broussard subscribes to. I read your articles daily, and hope that in the world moving forward everyone can have tolerance for one another while still staying true to their own beliefs. I hope I can do the same.

  • Anoop

    dude, he just said even heterosexual sexual activity outside of marriage as the same, and adultery from married players/ppl. I swear in everybody’s anxiety to post immediately based on emotion we miss the whole truth

  • Anoop

    haha anything can be used to justify these rants these days…
    Totally agree, some liberalism is great for our country and society as a whole, but sometimes it goes too far and becomes what it is trying to prevent. Jonah stated that poster Justin is raised in hate… how exactly do you know that Jonah? Don’t you think its a bigotted, narrow minded, view you just took to automatically generalize a person based on a few statements of their beliefs?

  • Anonymous

    Nothing he said could even remotely be considered “bullying” though.

  • Anonymous

    Fair enough. But this really isn’t a deep discussion. Broussard was just expressing what his beliefs are.

  • DC

    So, if my opinion differs from yours or even from the majority, that makes me an idiot. Thank “God” Dr. King, whom you quoted, was unafraid to be an idiot. Popular culture of the day by your own admission, does not alway turn out to be on the right side of an issue. At least Broussard did not attack Collins personally as you are doing to him. Coming from a third world country, I’m amazed that tolerance in America is a one-way street.

  • Eric Goldschein

    Your opinion can be that the sky is red and that the moon is made of cheese — that’s fine. This is not about having differing opinions because, as noted, we all have that right. It’s about having the opinion that another group of people is morally inferior based on the way they are. That’s when you get into trouble. I must tolerate Chris Broussard’s viewpoint, but that doesn’t mean I like it.

  • Jonah

    I based that on him calling homosexuals depraved. Go home, Anoop.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattrud Matt Rudnitsky

    Exactly. Just as Broussard is free to say something offensive, we are free to publicly expose his stupidity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattrud Matt Rudnitsky

    Where are these studies? I’m curious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattrud Matt Rudnitsky

    Er, Jason Collins did that.

  • Josh

    You too, obviously have the right to be an idiot. This article makes you no different than Broussard. If you’re so hellbent on being inclusive

  • Geoff Kl

    except he waited for the collin’s announcement to state that. why hasnt he been bashing on lebron and others since day one?

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.vogel.5205 Chris Vogel

    So, Christians are commonly malicious, wilfully ignorant, and childishly self-indulgent. We are getting used to it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominyk.wolferam Dominyk Wolferam

    So Christianity is like the Nazi’s and the KKK. Got it.

  • Anonymous

    This Justin kid will be single, forever.

    Or he will get with that crazy sorority girl. Lmao.

  • Anonymous

    I visit sports grid all the time and woah there are a lot of comments on this one!

    Lemme sum it up for everyone:

    Hello! I’m a meat head jock and I hate homos! I am mad! Liberals!

  • Anonymous

    LOL I love this horrible argument.

    Maybe you should stick to the protein shakes.

    Yes, I will continue to not have an open mind to people that are close minded.

  • Anonymous

    lol my god you are twisting yourself to rationalize this.

  • Anonymous

    Not a horrible argument. In fact, it was a correct analysis of the hypocrisy of the supposedly tolerant left.

  • Jonah

    Broussard stopped short of saying – on national television – that Collins will burn in the fiery pits of hell for all eternity.

    Yup, totally reasonable…

  • http://www.facebook.com/rosewood.fortress Rosewood Fortress

    I disagree with homosexuality, and not just personally. Even if you throw out the bible and the same god the framers of the U.S. refer to, the same bible you swear an oath to tell the truth, the same god and bible Jason Collins claims to follow, the gay lifestyle is UNNATURAL. Not a single human being on this planet is the product of a homosexual relationship. 6 billion to none. How many more since the dawn of man vs again NONE, EVER. Call someone an idiot, it doesn’t make you correct, it’s just your opinion. Finally, I find it ironic that gays/gay supporters seek inclusion, yet attempt to ostracize others whose views differ.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, sorry. You’re wrong. It was maybe correct in partisan-hackville, but not in reality.

    Here’s what you’re saying in a nutshell:

    Person A: You are a dirty dirty Italian, just like them all!

    Person B: And you are a bigot, I would rather not talk to people like you!

    Person A: So aren’t you now a bigot because you won’t be open to my views?!?!?!

    Your premise is that Christians get a free pass of intolerance because Bible. False.

    I’m sorry that reality has a liberal bias. You’re going to be so bitter as you grow older. Lol.

  • Anonymous

    No, it is you who is incorrect. Nothing Broussard actually said indicated that he is intolerant of homosexuals. He was simply stating a personal belief. Tolerance goes both ways, contrary to what liberals would have you believe.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, sorry. Wrong again. Tolerance doesn’t extend to people that are intolerant, no matter how tolerant you think they are because Bible.

    Chris Broussard said that he doesn’t think homosexuals can live an openly homosexual lifestyle because it’s a sin. As in, don’t be openly homosexual because it’s bad. And also that you cannot call yourself a Christian if you are gay, because for some reason to Chris Broussard being gay is so much of a worse sin than all the others. Nope, no intolerance there. Lol.

    Please, Matttheshark, show me in the bible where it ranks sins…. oh wait. You can’t. There’s two types, and the one that isn’t forgiven doesn’t have anything to do with being gay.

  • Anonymous

    In no way did Broussard say that being gay was a worse sin than all others. But hey, way to try to argue by putting words in someone’s mouth. Good job. He was also not giving anyone advice or telling anyone how to live. He was just explaining a personal belief that extends from a religion he follows. But once again, you are assuming things that just aren’t so. Perhaps this is how you try to argue. Invent things that other people say and then try to shoot them down. In the real world this is not a competent strategy no matter how much you think it is. And how about learning to form legitimate sentences? Is that too much to ask?

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Matt, I’ll learn how to write sentences as soon as you realize I never said that Chris Broussard said it was worse. I’m sorry your argument sucks so much that you have resorted to talking about my writing. You must be accustomed to losing.

    Chris Broussard didn’t use the word worse. It doesn’t matter. He said you cannot call yourself a Christian because of this specific sin. Which would mean to Chris Broussard, you cannot call yourself a Christian if you commit…. any sin? Hmm. Not putting words in his mouth Matt! Calm down! Just trying to follow Chris Broussard intolerance logic. It really doesn’t matter how I describe Chris Broussard’s words, he disparaged a group of people because of religion. A religion that forgives ALL sins. His beliefs are specifically intolerant.

  • Anonymous

    Actually no, I have successfully destroyed every one of your pathetic arguments. Perhaps you are too stupid to realize this. Anyway, you said “for some reason to Chris Broussard being gay is so much of a worse sin than all the others.” Now you are claiming you never said this? Wow. And no, Broussard did not disparage gays anywhere in his comments. What he said was simply a personal opinion based on his religious beliefs. There is nothing disparaging about that. Apparently, according to you, Christians can no longer think being gay is wrong without being disparaging and intolerant. So I guess they all have to think like you in order to achieve this higher level of “tolerance,” right?

  • Anonymous

    Hahhahahh okay Matt. The wingnut bubble is in full effect. You totally destroyed my arguments. Romney wins in a landslide!

    I never said that Chris Broussard said that being gay is worse. I said “apparently to Chris Broussard” being gay is so much of a worse sin.. which is exactly what Chris Broussard was saying, considering he just denied all gays Christianity. You can’t even keep straight what I said, and what Chris Broussard said. Are you sure you’re not too stupid to enter this conversation?

    He disparaged all gays. This was Chris Broussard’s response to a gay athlete coming out. To say that you cannot call yourself a Christian and you cannot live openly. To condemn the lifestyle entirely, because Christianity says so. He said you cannot do that because it is an open rebellion to God. Sure, those are HIS religious beliefs, but not what the actual beliefs are, and certainly not what every Christian believes.

    Christians can be bigots all they want, but when it’s infringing on other people that’s where the line is drawn. To say that being gay is an open rebellion to God is saying they are lesser people. I wonder if someone gay has ever been beat down to those words? Care to share, Matt? Chris Broussard is just continuing the religious bigotry that fuels hatred. Totally nothing disparaging about that.

    I guess when you’ve been raised your entire life with intolerance, it just hurts too bad to admit you’re intolerant.

    It’s fine though, this issue has completely shifted in this country and it is now unacceptable to treat gays as less worthy Americans. You lose ;) Keep humpin’ that bible.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tnecciai tim necciai

    What if it was his “personal belief” that black people are lesser human beings? “Personal belief” is not a shield you can use to deflect criticism; if you’re an idiot, you’re an idiot.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tnecciai tim necciai

    Yes, that is correct, they cannot think being gay is wrong without being intolerant. Your “personal beliefs” are not partitioned in some magical place in your brain that somehow makes them seperate from your views on the world. Some muslims believe that those who leave the religion should be put to death – are these beliefs defensible in light of their religious origins? No, any rational human would say. Religious beliefs are not “special,” and they are not immune from criticism. If you believe something that is morally repugnant, whether religiously inspired or not, you are a fool and deserving of criticism.

  • Anonymous

    Ha, I didn’t even vote for Romney, nice try. Again, you said that Broussard thinks being gay is “so much of a worse sin.” When in fact, what he did was put it on par with other sexual sins. You are completely ignorant of what his statements were even about and what you even said. Looks like you are the one who is too stupid for this conversation, amongst others.

    It is not disparaging to discuss an opinion you have regarding gays. He was not attempting to speak for all Christians. You are free to disagree with this if you want. But you should still respect Broussard’s opinion.

    In no way is what Broussard said infringing on any gay person. They are free to live how they want to live and Christians are free to think what they want about gays. Funny how that works out. And implying that gays are beaten to this rhetoric is really just idiotic. But that’s apparently right up your ally, right?

    In no way am I trying or advocating for treating gays in a less worthy manner. You are just putting words in the mouths of those you disagree with and then arguing against them. But hey, I guess when you are an idiot and can’t argue, you have to resort to things like that, huh? Once again, I have crushed you. And once again, you will be to ignorant to tell.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, everyone thinks that certain things are wrong and thus, are intolerant of those things. Let’s please try to respect both sides of the argument. So can you believe that anything is morally repugnant? Or are you a bigot for having any morals whatsoever?

  • Jay

    Didn’t say he was disrespectful. I’m just not a fan of bringing religion
    into a discussion about sports or a sports figure. Like I said if I want to watch
    ESPN, I want to watch sports. I’m not interested in a discussion of
    religion, politics or any other topic not sports related. I did say in
    an earlier comment, after I saw the clip for the first time, that I didn’t feel it was gay bashing but I did think it was an inappropriate question. What an athlete does away from the game doesn’t interest me that much. Tell me what they did & let me decide how I feel about them. I grew up when news was really news & not the spin & crap the media puts into it now. So, when I want news I just want the facts, not a discussion on how someone else feels or their religious, political or whatever views.

  • Seahawk

    This site has had numerous articles based on television interviews. Given the subject and context, it would have been unseemly not to cover it.

  • Robb

    He (Broussard) didn’t make any disparaging remarks about gays. The same opinion he gave about gays was levied with equal measure to heterosexuals practicing premarital sex… But I guess the media doesn’t want to put that part in. He feels that either are practicing in open rebellion against God. Stop trying to label him as gay bashing

  • Anonymous

    Or will I be *too ignorant to tell? Yikes. I wouldn’t end it like that, but I guess that’s how you roll. Matttheshark really wants to get online and ‘crush’ in some arguments about the hypocrisy of the supposedly tolerant left! Good for you!!! You sure told Jonah about Chris Broussard’s opinion! I guess I would still side with Jonah about “…gays just cant move on with their lives unless their depraved lifestyle is shoved in everyones face…” being intolerant, though. You get to claim correctness without even telling me what you’re talking about. When obviously I was talking about the other poster’s words with my ‘dirty italian’ analogy. So, this is pretty much just dumb.

    I don’t really care to argue about how I described what Chris Broussard said, and what I think Chris Broussard’s beliefs are. I don’t care what they are. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that somehow someone thought it would be a good idea to throw Chris Broussard on TV and say those beliefs, the same beliefs that have kept people like Jason Collins from doing what he did. Also it’s not just his comments on OTL, this article talks about more of his writings. And I took it from there about Christianity related things. I suppose it is Jason’s fault once again for claiming he is a Christian, since that’s what provoked this. I still do feel like Broussard’s views were wrongly timed, and he could have said what he meant better. So yeah, I respect his opinion, but he’s still an idiot.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tnecciai tim necciai

    Respect is reserved for beliefs deserving of respect. A belief that denegrates a fellow human being is absolutely not deserving of respect, no matter if it is religiously inspired. Do you respect the beliefs of klansmen? Not their right to have such disgusting beliefs, but the beliefs themselves. Is their “argument” worth considering? No. The same goes for any belief that brands a fellow human being “wrong” or “sinful” for having the audacity to be born a certain way.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tnecciai tim necciai

    That is what is expected of men, especially atheletes, in today’s society.

  • http://profiles.google.com/tnecciai tim necciai

    Exactly! I tell my friends every day, I don’t hate black people, I just disagree with the color of their skin! Ya know?

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Idiot? That would be Eric and his pole smoking bros….get this fool, Collins, a failed roundballer, like you,a fail sports writer, need to keep your perversions to yourself, nobody gives a rat’s behind about his sex life….

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Jhop head, that was the discussion….tool!

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Go jump in a whale Jonah, and be done with it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    but you are a dumbass….and no doubt a pole smoking fool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Last stright player to brag about sex was Chamberlin….Collins knows he is a failed NBA hack, so he pushes his perversion to get some face time{or perhaps an easy date}

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Speaking of assholes, come out from behind your compuer gay boy….Broussard’s comments are valid, he just didn’t take them far enough. Now, back to your bath house lovers and shut the *uck up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pat.houseworth Pat Houseworth

    Move the the MIddle East asshole and tel them you like to smoke poles and see how long you last…

  • Anonymous

    Not really a valid comparison. One is a skin color. The other is a behavior.

  • Anonymous

    Ok. But it is interesting that Broussard can get along with LZ Granderson, who is gay, without any real hang ups? LZ knows where Chris stands on the issue just as Chris knows what LZ’s lifestyle is. But at the end of the day they can put it behind them and respect one another. This is often the way it works with these un-PC comments. The people who get bent out of shape about them are often guilty white liberals who claim to be able to speak for entire minority groups because of their status as “progressives.” When you actually encounter a member of these groups that are supposed to be offended by these remarks, they are either not offended or not as offended as the white progressives would have you believe. Looks like that was the case here as well.

  • Anonymous

    You are assuming that being gay is an innate trait rather than a behavior or lifestyle. I do not wish to get into this debate. But there are people on both sides of this opinion. Many believe that being gay is not something you are born with but a lifestyle choice. Again, let’s save that debate for another time. But we should respect the people who think this way and not equate them with racists. Broussard has no agenda to harm, discriminate or insult gays. Let’s not act like he does.

  • Anonymous

    the real idiot is eric goldschein who wrote this stupid article. i’m sure he’s either gay or an atheist or both.

  • Jonah

    The “debate” about homosexuality being a choice is not a debate, Matt. If you really think that it’s a choice, you should know that you are wrong and everyone else is right.

  • Jonah

    At least Pat says what he really means. In fact, I’m kind of turned on by it…

  • Jonah

    Let me get your digits, Pat? Nothing better than a hate-fuck…

  • Jonah

    I don’t know, it seems like you care a lot…

  • Anonymous

    I indicated that I was not interested in having that debate. Only that we need to respect those on both sides of it. Clearly the author of this doesn’t do that.

  • Anonymous

    Sure, I suppose their relationship is interesting. I think you’re still making it a bit too personal about Chris though when the issue is what he said on TV to a national audience. It’s the message more than who said it and how he feels about it. I guess my problem with it is that he was asked and then opined that no Jason you cannot call yourself a Christian, but then took it one step further saying you are an open rebellion to god! Whether or not that’s valid doesn’t matter, it’s just the fact that when this event is happening for the first time I don’t believe it’s a good look to tell a what… 75% Christian nation that what Jason Collins did was an open rebellion to God. That wasn’t part of the question. And people have obviously disagreed with it. I just think Chris could have stated his position in a much more eloquent respectful way that could be suited for this situation and the TV medium that he is opining on. I mean I totally understand your point about people getting way too bent out of shape. Happens all day everyday. But a lot of gays are really tired of having their lifestyle talked down upon so much, which is where I think Chris took it. So I think people are right, like this author, to call him an idiot. And just because Chris can function in relationships with gays even though he doesn’t view it as moral doesn’t mean that others that feel the same way can, so I’m sure he did a good job of reinforcing some people’s prejudice, especially if this comments section is any indication.

    Then the ‘un-PC’ stuff, I just don’t know how I feel about that. A lot of the time when I hear someone decrying the PC way of things it’s because they really want to be able to say racial slurs, disparage gays or wish they can go back to being generally offensive. That’s just how I see it. It’s like the poster up there, Justin Hensley, being like Oh man these freakin’ liberals are so intolerant! Then Jonah exposed him for being pretty intolerant to gays. And now we have this Pat Houseworth character making really offensive comments. I encounter people everyday that are just like those guys and they hate being PC. I just don’t know how on one hand you say progressives are the ones who claim to speak for entire minority groups then you claim to speak for them by saying well actually those minority groups aren’t offended and not as much as you think? How do you know that?? Did you really talk to everyone that saw this on TV and now all over the internet?

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    No not an idiot for thinking differently but 1) for answering such a hot button question with a religious answer when it’s a SPORTS network about a SPORTS figure. The question itself was inappropriate as well. If I wanted to see a discussion on religion I’d tune into CBN, Trinity or one of who knows how many religious networks. If I wanted to hear a discussion about politics I’d tune into CNN, FOX, etc. So when I watch ESPN, I don’t want to hear anybody’s views on anything BUT sports. Even then I wish they would cut all the talk show crap & get back to what they used to do….sports ONLY! But that’s like asking MTV to go back to just music videos. I wish they would but they never will. That’s why I never watch that network either. I think the only networks that are STILL true to their original purpose are the home shopping networks!

  • TimeBender

    Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    If Broussard has gay friends & openly interacts with them then isn’t he being tolerant & accepting of them? Then if so, why did he even make the comments he did? The smartest thing in my mind is for him to have avoided making the comments all together. It’s like being against smoking or drinking but having family or friends who do so. In all but a small percentage of cases, we all can relate to one side of that or the other BUT we don’t segregate ourselves from them, much less comment negatively or publicly about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    Actually it’s developed into a deep discussion from looking at all the posts. Fortunately the discussion has pretty much dropped from the radar of TV, which is what I thought should happen all along. Even the few days it was front & center I thought were too much, at least seeing it on media outlets like ESPN. Sadly, it looks like it’s going to go on & on here awhile.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    You can disagree with 2 people of the same sex being in a physical, intimate relationship while still believing that there is someone out there for everyone & they are entitled to be loved & cared for by someone special. A person with this belief would, obviously, feel that the 2 should be of the opposite sex. You can disagree with someone who chooses to picket, strongly vocalize their opions, etc. but you can support a persons right to free speech. So maybe the better way to phrase it is that one disagrees with a persons METHODS in expressing themselves or participating in certain activities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    Promoting healthy eating or lifestyle is not a platform or belief that Republican, Democrat, Liberal or any other political party can or should claim. It just makes common sense that it is better if we eat healthy. It’s a fact that the vast majority of foods today are not nearly as healthy as they used to be. Companies add salt, sugar, etc. to improve shelf life or make things sweeter, etc. & most of those added things are not considered healthy. The country as a whole has gotten lazy as well. So, although I consider myself an independent, I can fully understand Michelle Obama & others encouraging healthy eating & lifestyle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    I think his comments DO come close to bullying. He is CLEARLY saying Collins isn’t a Christian if he is gay. That also means he is calling all other gays non-Christian, which in effect is pushing his beliefs on them. I’d consider that bullying to a degree.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jasonlneal Jason L. Neal

    1) for choosing to answer the question instead of saying he has his own personal beliefs but doesn’t feel it’s appropriate to discuss them in such a public forum. 2) for the way he responded. He could have expressed disagreement in a more tactful manner 3) he has gay friends (LZ for example) & he goes to lunch with them & interacts with them all the time. So why did he feel he had to say what he did? If anything I think those actions versus the views he expressed contradict each other.

  • john Doe

    Why are you so worried about “pole smokers?” Are you a secret homo? Do you dream about “smoking poles.” Do you think you’re a tough guy? I bet you are so tough, that you fantasize about holding twinks down and “smoking their poles.” That will show those twinks! Right “tough guy/secret pole smoker” Pat?

  • john Doe

    Yup, that’s why there is no backlash to his comments. If only I could also live in this wondrous world of phantasmagoric whimsy, where magical conjecture and cognitive dissonance reign supreme. It must be a very dense state of existence.

  • Brandon Howard

    This whole thing is ridiculous. He expressed Biblical truth not hatred and not an ostracism of an entire group of people. He said openly homosexuals who are pursuing a homosexual relationship are in open rebellion to God. If someone is homosexual and is fighting it in pursuit of the Lord then they are not. He doesn’t hate them, he believes the Bible says what they are doing is a sin, which it does. It the same thing about alcoholics. If you are actively pursuing a life of debauchery then you are in open rebellion to God. Its not that Christians hate gays, in fact we love them dearly which is why we want them to turn to Jesus.

  • Anonymous

    ‘Not a single human being on this planet is the product of a homosexual relationship.’

    But all homosexuals are the product of heterosexuals.

    Heterosexuals, therefore, shouldn’t be allowed to breed…

  • Phoenix Jones

    What a silly article.

    “The argument that homosexuals are inferior to heterosexuals is akin to
    the argument that blacks are inferior to whites by virtue of birth.”

    Did Broussard say they were inferior? Is he recommending gays should be enslaved? His statement has nothing to do with law or politics. He was abundantly clear that he was speaking from a SPIRITUAL standpoint. And in the context of his spiritual beliefs, homosexuality is a sin. As it is in Judaism and Islam. So you have FIVE BILLION people who follow these belief systems on the globe, making Broussard’s belief not that unique or “shocking” in its proper context.

    If you are going to assail him, at least maintain some intellectual integrity and argue against what he actually said, not the silly racial straw men you are trying to build up to make this into something it’s not.

  • perfect_key

    wop genius said “People who claim that the Government shouldn’t allow them to marry based on their religious beliefs is not what America is based on.”

    Wrong Wop. That is exactly what our America is based on. Unfortunately, the bleeding heart liberals are trying, everyday, to change that. When our laws/constitution were formed over 200 years ago they were patterned after the Word of God, the standard of ALL justice. If you don’t believe me, look at your constitution and your local laws. Where do you think that murdering someone is unlawful came from? It didn’t just come into existence like the big bang theory. God, yes GOD, said that it was unlawful. How about stealing? and on and on……. Now you have a president (Obama) who says that you can’t take all of the Bible literally. Trying to water down the Word to get homosexuality from being sinful. Him and others are using slavery as an example. Slavery was never meant to be a bad thing. We all owe allegiance to someone, whether that be a supervisor, or only God. Slavery became ugly by Americans when slaves were traded and abused. So now the liberals take on homosexuality. They question if the word homosexual was actually part of the language used 2000 years ago or just came into being with the KJV (and others) interpretation. For those who question whether homosexuality is sinful and wrong, read Romans 1. It doesn’t use the word homosexual. NO DOUBT there. The problem is, Wop, is that there are many like you who want so badly to have God and religion out of everything. Separation of church and state was/is only because of abuses of the church hundreds of years ago. It was NOT meant to keep God out of our laws and lives. Slowing advocating homosexual marriages and taking out the part where people owe allegiance to supervisors (masters)….what is next? Murder? Stealing? Why not, since you don’t believe that God controls what man should do? Do like you want….

  • perfect_key

    Goldschein isn’t an idiot. Neither is the devil. If you don’t believe me, then look at all the minions who follow Satan. Goldschein is cold and calculating and makes everything wrong look ok. For those of you who are atheists or unbelievers, even if you don’t care for following the God of All, then just look in Genesis about the story of Adam and Eve….and their fall. Even for an atheist, it is a good read. Goldschein wants you to believe that anyone who believes that homosexuality is sinful is also a discriminator. Our president believes the same. NOW….you have a group called FaithfulAmerica that believes that God doesn’t hate sin (homosexuality). Another win for Satan. Remember this….”that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, Philippians 2:10. That day is coming soon enough.

    You are right, if you don’t believe in God, no Scripture matters.

  • Cody

    Thank you SportsGrid for one of my favorite articles of the year.

  • Jonah

    Lolz. Ya dumb, son.


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